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		<title>Displaying of email addresses</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Please can you remove my email address&#8221;
This is the most common request I get. I have decided to remove from displayÂ all email addresses from all newsgroup posts (along similar lines to Google Groups) in an effort to stop the email spam harvesters.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Please can you remove my email address&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">This is the most common request I get. I have decided to remove from displayÂ all email addresses from all newsgroup posts (along similar lines to Google Groups) in an effort to stop the email spam harvesters.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">The message headers (and the email address of the sender) are still viewable, but are hidden behind a &#8216;captcha&#8217; screen (one of those &#8216;copy the letters in the box below&#8217; devices). They appear to be quite effective at determining man from machine.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">I also intend to introduce a &#8216;view raw post&#8217; feature, again behind captcha, where email addresses in the body of posts can be safely viewed.</span></p>
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		<title>Just in case you are wondering&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[In the last post I talked about the abilty to decode binaries. For the record, I will not be mirroring any porn, mp3, movieÂ or warez newsgroups (and yes, there ARE some binary newsgroups other than these).I&#8217;ll leave those to the specialists  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">In the last post I talked about the abilty to decode binaries. For the record, I will not be mirroring any porn, mp3, movieÂ or warez newsgroups (and yes, there ARE some binary newsgroups other than these).</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">I&#8217;ll leave those to the specialists <img src='http://www.newsgroupbanter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></p>
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		<title>New (and improved) scripts</title>
		<link>http://www.newsgroupbanter.com/new-and-improved-scripts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been busy updating the web interface to the newsgroups that I mirror. Most of the work is in the back end, so you won&#8217;t see much difference - except of course it will run that little bit smoother  One area that I have concentrated on is binaries. The scripts can now successfully [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">I have been busy updating the web interface to the newsgroups that I mirror. Most of the work is in the back end, so you won&#8217;t see much difference - except of course it will run that little bit smoother <img src='http://www.newsgroupbanter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">One area that I have concentrated on is binaries. The scripts can now successfully decode uuenoded, yenc and mime binary formats. This took me much longer than it should have, as there was a damned bug that was distorting theÂ images which took forever for me to track down. I expect to add some binary groups to the non-binary forums in the near future..</span></p>
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		<title>Background to this web interface</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[This project is about creating a better web interface to Usenet groups. The place I decided to start was to look at forum software which has a much more developed feel and look when comparing with existing Usenet web interfaces,Â and then look at building a fully featuredÂ Usenet interfaceÂ on top ofÂ that.This left me with two options, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">This project is about creating a better web interface to Usenet groups. The place I decided to start was to look at forum software which has a much more developed feel and look when comparing with existing Usenet web interfaces,Â and then look at building a fully featuredÂ Usenet interfaceÂ on top ofÂ that.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">This left me with two options, vBulletin and phpBB, both of which are very developed and capable forum applications, and both already have hacks available to interface with newsgroups.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">In the endÂ I opted for <a href="http://www.vbulletin.com" title="Vbulletin">vBulletin</a> as the core of the interface, as I felt its development is very active, has the most advanced features of any forumÂ and a great api for developing and extending the software. It also has a very enthusiastic following with many hacks available at <a href="http://www.vbulletin.org">vBulletin.org</a>Â and a pretty stable <a href="http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=92588">newsgroup hack</a>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">The downside is it costs for each licence, and I will need a lot of licences.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">One of the principles is to bring similar usenet newsgroups together into one collection, as opposed to one site for ten thousand different newsgroups.Â  e.g. bring together all the Chess related groups into one site, such as <a href="http://www.chessbanter.com">ChessBanter</a>. This can then focus on just this aspect along the idea that if you use or are interested in one of the chess groups, there is a fair chance the other groups might work for you as well.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">This will give me a core platform on which to build, and I have already made significant progress on improving the interface and adding new features and I will talk about these more in the coming weeks and months.</span></p>
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		<title>Google Groups - 5 years in Beta?</title>
		<link>http://www.newsgroupbanter.com/google-groups-5-years-in-beta/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 09:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[In February 2001 Google acquired Deja.com and promptly renamed it Google Groups. It&#8217;s been in Beta ever since.It had aÂ much overdue upgrade last year to Google Groups 2 (although I have noticed thatÂ Google have nowÂ dropped the &#8216;2&#8242;) with some significant improvements in usability and speed over the original version, and has moved beyond just Usenet [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">In February 2001 Google acquired Deja.com and promptly renamed it Google Groups. It&#8217;s been in Beta ever since.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">It had aÂ much overdue upgrade last year to Google Groups 2 (although I have noticed thatÂ Google have nowÂ dropped the &#8216;2&#8242;) with some significant improvements in usability and speed over the original version, and has moved beyond just Usenet newsgroups, but for me the interface is still clunky and the layout is not easy to understand.Â Google&#8217;s approach to using Beta tags for its product is becoming legendary, but this must be a record for them as it approaches 5 years with that title.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">The rapid advance in otherÂ Google products suggest that Groups does not have the same development priority as other areas within Google.Â My guess would be that G consider UsenetÂ not to have the potential to deliver the bigÂ $$$. The inability to makeÂ any returnÂ from Usenet has seen the demise of many companies in this field. There has been a trend for ISP&#8217;s to outsource or even abandon offering a news feed to it&#8217;s customers withÂ AOL discontinuing its service in February 2005.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">As someone who is trying to better what G is doing in the newsgroup area (and specifically with web-interface access), I do admire what they have achieved. Working efficiently with that volume of data is impressive butÂ they have the skills, infrastructureÂ and resources to support it.Â I still believe I can develop a more intuitive and feature packed interface than Google Groups (in time!), and maybe by the time their product comes out of Beta I might have an offering that can match it on usability <img src='http://www.newsgroupbanter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </span></p>
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		<title>Giganews Sponsors Backend Infrastructure for Mozilla Foundation&#8217;s Newsgroups</title>
		<link>http://www.newsgroupbanter.com/giganews-sponsors-backend-infrastructure-for-mozilla-foundations-newsgroups/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[In an announcement on Giganews website, Giganews will sponsor access to the Mozilla Foundation&#8217;s Usenet newsgroups hierarchy.From the announcment:
&#8220;The Mozilla Foundation was created to support the development of the best quality software and services to people looking for innovation and choice on the Internet. We know that the Mozilla community has high expectations of us, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">In an announcement on <a href="http://www.giganews.com/news.html">Giganews</a> website, Giganews will sponsor access to the Mozilla Foundation&#8217;s Usenet newsgroups hierarchy.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana">From the announcment:</span></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The Mozilla Foundation was created to support the development of the best quality software and services to people looking for innovation and choice on the Internet. We know that the Mozilla community has high expectations of us, and we felt that choosing Giganews to host our Usenet capabilities would allow us to continue to adhere to our high standards and offer an excellent service to our developers and other members of our community,&#8221; detailed Frank Hecker, Director of Policy at the Mozilla Foundation, when asked about the partnership with Giganews.</p>
<p>Jonah Yokubaitis, CEO of Giganews, says, &#8220;The Giganews and Mozilla partnership is a natural fit and we&#8217;re glad to offer this free service to their valued developer network. Mozilla&#8217;s reputation for developing some of the Internet&#8217;s leading browser and e-mail applications has attracted the same type of customers who demand the high quality Usenet service that Giganews provides.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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Anything that helps and supports the Mozilla Foundation is good in my books.</span></p>
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		<title>Not much to see, but welcome</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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